And then check out ThinkingMomsRevelution.com. Most of these moms on this blog are parents whose child have died or are suffering from vaccine injuries. These women are another reason I believe in right to choose. Search through their stories. Heartbreaking.
I think whats sad and most frustrating about the post written by JJ Keith is this, most adults aren’t up to date with all of their vaccines. So while they advocate for their children to be vaccinated so that they are “doing their part” to protect others (ideally) who cant vax, they themselves aren’t even current with their vaccinations, and haven’t been for more than half of their life. Our childhood vaccines have worn off (thats assuming we were one of the lucky ones that built the proper amount of antibodies when given the vaccine). By 15 years of age, even with boosters, the antibodies are gone. And a good majority of us have not gotten any of the new vaccines or the corresponding boosters since they have been “on the market” for our children. Most of the adult population have been walking around for more than half of their life unvaccinated. And yet… haven’t spread any disease… So so interesting.
Here is the thing with this whole vaccine debate. Each article/blog/story/study will have endless refutes. Thats what happens. Each side will refute each other into a bottomless pit of information. I can counter argue the above article with just one story of a vaccine injured child. It’s just the way this sort of thing works. Same goes for politics, same goes for religion. But I digress. Back to the point…..
Here is a case where the outbreak was caused because of vaccines, Titled “CDC finds ‘pseudo-outbreak’ of whooping cough“. Who should be responsible? Unvaccinated individuals are not the only cause for the spread of disease.
And here is a case in Israel where they found adolescents who were vaccinated had “silent whooping cough symptoms” and were actually spreading it to infants unknowingly. CDC investigates Whooping Cough outbreak in Israel
One argument I am seeing as I research is this: That it’s individuals who choose not to vaccinate who are to blame for outbreaks. Even more, that they should be held legally responsible. But the more I searched, I found articles like THIS.
(Here is a quote. “WE STARTED DISSECTING THE DATA. WHAT WAS VERY SURPRISING WAS THE MAJORITY OF CASES WERE IN FULLY VACCINATED CHILDREN. THAT’S WHAT STARTED CATCHING OUR ATTENTION.”),
I also found THIS and THIS and THIS and THIS. (Source). To sum it up (if you just want to take my word for it), outbreaks are happening in FULLY vaccinated areas, too. So, why are unvaccinated peoples targeted as the cause? Why are only unvaccinated accused of not protecting those who can’t vaccinate? It seems, as I have found, if an individual really researches, you can find stories like the ones I shared. It’s unfortunate because the only people who really decide to research are those individuals who are suspicious of vaccines to begin with (not many are) OR those who have had a child who reacted to a vaccine (but by then its too late).
THIS journal shows that measles was spread by two physicians who were fully up to date with their vaccinations.
Who is to blame? Really both sides are. We are human. There is no “one-answer-cure-all-potion.” And actually, my intention is not to blame anyone. My intension is to show that, if you research a bit, you will find, outbreaks are happening in fully vaccinated people too, and they are ALSO the cause of the spread of diseases. There are many studies the show that some people who are vaccinated culture the virus in their lungs, when they cough, they spread it. This specifically happens with the Whooping Cough vaccine.
And I actually know someone personally who had to deal with a Rotavirus outbreak. When the CDC investigated, they found the root cause of the outbreak was because of a bad batch of the vaccine. Betcha didn’t hear THAT one on the news. In fact, there are PLENTY of stories like this that happen all the time that never are reported to the public. But I’ll cover that in a bit.
My concern is this: how many boosters are we going to need before the vaccine will actually work? When will the vaccine plus the boosters cause “full immunity”? Aren’t we told that it DOES? And later we find out it doesn’t? Or is it understood that boosters are just the fact of life when it comes to vaccines? In order for vaccines to work, we need boosters for the rest of our lives? Again, I know I’m not an immunologist, so maybe im missing something? There definitely are studies that show, not only do vaccines NOT equal immunity, but not all people create the amount of antibodies needed to fight off disease OR not spread it. You can listen to more on this by this Immunologist HERE. She discusses several studies that documented that many people don’t build immunity when vaxed. They walk around assuming they are immune, but they are not. She herself received both the MMR vaccine and it’s booster and STILL contracted Measles at the age of 5. Her vaccines DID NOT provide enough immunity for her not to contract it, not spread it, OR deal with it in a less manor.
I want to mention boosters specifically because the more I search, the more I realized that groups of people (specifically those who are very provax) believe we should be receiving boosters for our childhood vaccines from here on out. I guess my question is… how many boosters will it take? California is on number 7 for whooping cough. SEVEN. Five before Kindergarden and two after. California is one of the states(from 2011-2013 ) that have had an increase of cases with a high majority being in adolescents. Are more boosters the answer to this? If I’m going to vaccinate myself or my child, you better make sure that I only need ONE. ONE that will work A LIFE TIME, and is 100% safe. Isn’t that what we are told is supposed to happen? At one time, one vaccine WAS expected to work. Turns out that doesn’t happen. So we invented boosters. And then we expected ONE booster on top of the vaccine to work. Now we expect 3, 4, 5 boosters to work. We expect this because we are told it will work. hmmm…. And yet, the CDC is suggesting more boosters?
At what point does common sense kick in (regardless of what the “experts” tell us)? Perhaps we need all these boosters because immunity isn’t happening. Whooping cough and measles vaccines, I question. We are told that vaccines are a “one size fits all” (Until your child has a reaction of course. Then its a different story out of the docs mouth). I was actually poking around a PROvax site today and the discussion at hand was about how we need a new whooping cough vaccine. The one that is currently out is not working. And this was coming from PRO- VAX individuals.
Perhaps we should define what “Vaccines are working” means. Because what immunologist think and what is shared with the public based off of that is very important. Do immunologists consider vaccines are a success if they cover an individual 100% for a life time (thats what they thought vaccines did at one time 40 years ago. We know now thats not true)? Do immunologists consider vaccines a success if they cover an individual for 10 years? 5 years? A year? 6 months? Because definition is key here. If doctors believe that vaccines are successful if they cover an infant for a few months at a time, and at that point you need a booster, I personally am not comfortable with that. Did you know the amount of heavy metals in those vaccines and boosters that my child gets at one time, actually succeeds the “safe daily allowance” recommended by the CDC (More on this further down)? Boosters…. The simple idea of them suggests some vaccines are flawed.
What is the CDC’s answer to outbreaks in vaccinated areas? BOO$TER$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!
(PS: Here is a quote from Dr. Anne Schuchat, the director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases explains that:
“Better diagnosis and reporting of whooping cough may be contributing to the increased numbers, along with the fact that the disease tends to peak and wane in cycles. It does not appear that anti-vaccination sentiment among parents has contributed…” (source))
To find out if you or child are making the correct amount of antibodies to fight of a disease after receiving a vaccine, please request a titer tes
t. Put simply, it measures the amount of antibodies you are producing against a given disease.
3. Media Coverage
WHY aren’t stories of outbreaks that happen in fully vaccinated populations not VOMITED all over the public like the stories of outbreaks in unvaccinated areas? Like this Texas one. I would be surprised if you haven’t heard of these, because the media and the CDC have really had a field day with them (I call it media rape).
Let me clarify something for everyone who only finds their information from TV or public news: There definitely are outbreaks of disease in vaccinated areas. We as the public really don’t know this for two reasons.
1. Outbreaks that happen in fully vaccinated areas OR that happen BECAUSE of vaccinations aren’t reported to the public for the most part. (The rotovius story I shared earlier)
2. We as the public are only told that there has been an outbreak, period. The media or reporter leave out that the outbreak was in a vaccinated area. Our minds automatically jump to the conclusion (because we aren’t prone to research for the truth) that if there was an outbreak, it is probably because the area wasn’t vaccinated.
Like the outbreak of whooping cough in California in 2012. Here is the version the public got (and there is countless others that you will see if you are a typical person with a TV in your house). Well, Here is another version that I had to dig for, that is NOT shared on TV. And here is a more accurate look. Or are both sides biased? Do both sides twists stories to what they want the public to know and believe? That is for you to decide as you research.
Currently CNN has reported THIS about Measles. To that, I say THIS.
I’ll tell ya one thing about this, what is brought directly to the public via newspapers and TV – It is most certainly suggestive.
4. Parents Stories:
Why CAN’T parents stories be held as reliable sources as a reason to be cautions about vaccinating? We are told, ”Don’t listen to ‘whoever’s’ story because they have no proof that there was a link to their child’s issue and vaccines.” This simple idea is like “inception.” It is an idea suggested and planted in our minds that causes us to automatically agree that such a statement is true. that we can’t or shouldn’t take these peoples stories into consideration, and that these parents simply cant be trusted because it’s, “just one story” and “studies say otherwise” or “they may be lying”. Lying? really? THOUSANDS upon thousands of parents lying about their child reacting to vaccines?
It actually makes more sense to believe these stories than not. Why? One reason is that there are thousands and thousands of them. If there were only a few parents with these stories, sure, I would probably doubt them. But there aren’t just a few, there are TENS of THOUSANDS. I don’t care what “studies” are saying that “disprove” vaccine damage (that are conducted by people getting paid by the sell of vaccines). Too many people have stories. TOO MANY. In fact, there are enough stories that these people have come together and have actually formed a growing movement known as “Antivax.”
And honestly, what are these parents gaining by simply sharing their story? Nothing. They don’t get anything for sharing their story. The simple fact that they gain absolutely NOTHING by sharing their story is actually a fine reason to trust them. Why would someone lie for nothing? Why would thousands upon thousands lie for nothing? They share because they are concerned. And they don’t want what they think happened to them, to happen to YOU! We should be thanking them and honoring them by listening. This is why I support choice when it comes to vaccines.
Even more: Why is it expected of us to NOT take into consideration those parents whose child had a reaction to a vaccine, and yet, we ARE supposed to take into consideration the stories of parents whose children DID NOT react to the vaccine? Explain this logic to me.
You can read about peoples stories HERE and HERE. These stories are why I support choice.
5. Contradictions and the CDC:
Before I move forward, if you don’t know what the CDC is and the role they play, please please educate yourself. Please, if you are fighting for vaccines and don’t understand what the CDC is or does….knowing this will be helpful for you.
The CDC says that most people should vaccinate excluding those who can’t, such as the elderly or the ill. Basically, they suggest all individuals get vaccinated who are able. But, It also says that any persons known to be allergic to anything in the vaccines should not vaccinate. Well here is a question that will make you think: How on Earth can anyone know, including a doctor, if your new born baby IS or ISNT allergic to anything in those shots? This sounds like a complete contradiction, and a GIANT risk to take with a baby you know nothing about. And what also bothers me is that doctors are told to continue with vaccinations even if the baby had a “mild” reaction. Well scroll through those websites I put under question 3. After reading peoples stories and their outcome… would YOU want to continue if your child had a “minor” reaction? Because it seems many of the major health issues that resulted started with “mild” reactions to first or second doses.
Here is a fantastic blog post about the FLU VACCINE. She actually mentions some contradictions she has found too. This quote from her is fantastic. She makes this comment after reading the insert given with the Flu Vaccine.
“The flu shot should be given to all pregnant women, but the company that makes the flu shots says that it ‘should be given to a pregnant woman only if clearly needed.’ If it’s ‘clearly neede’” for all pregnant women, why even print the warning? And no animal reproductive studies were done on this drug they want to give to all pregnant women? They have no information on whether or not it will harm your baby or make you incapable of making further babies?” – See more at: http://thinkingmomsrevolution.com/flu-shot-clinic/#comment-22769
6. The CDC is Bias:
The CDC has a specific page titled “Unprotected Stories.” Thank you for that information. Now, where are the “Protected Stories?” Ya know, the stories of people who WERE vaccinated but still caught the disease? Clearly, there are many.
OR what about a page devoted to bad batches of vaccines that CAUSED outbreaks. Like the one that happened to a friend of mine? We as a public should have access to ALL of these studies and cases.
And then, HERE is what the CDC says about Polio. So next time you are scared about it, remember that 95% of people who have it show no symptoms at all. If you are in good health and you contract it and are NOT drinking sewage water (like back in the day when polio was everywhere) you will most likely get through it with no problems. And I believe that is the case for most diseases.
7. Not all the information is given to us
Did you receive THIS at your pediatricians office when you got your baby vaccinated? I didn’t. I got a smaller, less informative one, a less frighting one. Why don’t patients get that more in depth reaction sheet?? By the way… under HIB…Pearls reaction isn’t listed. Which suggests to me that there may be other reactions that the CDC considers a “non reaction” that aren’t listed.
8. The MYTH of Herd Immunity
Before I move forward…. If you have no idea what Herd Immunity is, please, please educate yourself on this topic. If you are fighting for vaccines and don’t understand Herd Immunity…knowing and understanding it will help you.
Herd Immunity. This idea that if over 95% of the population is fully vaccinated, the ones who cant be vaccinated (infants, the ill, and elderly) would be protected.
It’s a myth. It JUST. IS. This is where I think research is greatly important. Our country went about 30-40 years thinking that when any individual was vaccinated they were protected for life. We later found out that wasn’t true (Which is why BOOSTERS were invented). We found that not all people receive the same amount of antibody response, and that it fades in the body after 2 to 10 years. Where were all the outbreaks during the time we THOUGHT we had herd immunity?
Read THIS, and THIS, and THIS about the myth that is Herd Immunity.
AND THIS Immunologist found a study that shows that boosters don’t even really work. Yes, It’s a youtube video. Your argument may be that that means its not reliable. Well, I will say, that idea is “inception.” Whether I hear her information on youtube, another video, in a book, or in a study – WHERE I get her info does not change her content, or make it more or less reliable, truthful, or scientific.
How many adults do you know of who are fully vaccinated? I don’t know very many. Shouldn’t we be having GIANT amounts of outbreaks amongst adults my age and older?
9. Define “Epidemic”
10 infants dying in a year from whooping cough is considered an epidemic. 1 in 50 children developing autism, and 1 in 6 children developing some other chronic health condition is NOT? Thousands of deaths a year by vaccination is not epidemic? OH wait, we call infant death, SIDS.
10. Half Truths and the CDC
When the public can only see THIS GRAPH (CDC Reference by cases) and THIS GRAPH on the decline of Polio cases or death (or other infectious diseases). But when you pan back MORE years, you get THIS GRAPH (by death). Hide information much? And ya know, I couldn’t for the life of me, find a graph ANYWHERE that showed the documented cases of polio in America prior to the 1950s? I say that because I understand one graphs show cases, while the other shows deaths. But, you can see, for at least DEATHS, it seems death by polio was already on the decline.
In any case, the CDC’s graph alone is pretty deceiving. OF course if you start a graph just a few years before you introduce a vaccine it could look like the vaccine eradicated Polio. But if you can compare it to the WHOLE TREND, say, when polio was first on the scene? … what will it look like? How about you provide a graph that shows cases of Polio starting in the early 1900s? Then we will better be able to see how effective the polio vaccine was. While you are at it. READ THIS.
(side note: I have researched and found that at one time there was a very different graph on the CDCs website for Polio – the one I want to post, showing how Polio was already on the decline, but they have since taken it down).
And just for fun, HERE is a graph for DTP and DTap. And THIS is good to look over too. All these disease were on their way out before the vaccines.
11. Doctors cant make up their mind
Why are we were told first that, “vaccines don’t do that (fill in whatever reaction you or your child have),” and then after that reaction happens you hear, “all right, yes, it was the vaccine, but it was a one-in-a-million flukey reaction.” (Idea taken from a fellow facebooker and of course, a personal experience)
Well which is it? Do vaccines cause damage or not? Because this is our lives and health we are talking about here.
12. Define “expert”
This idea that any antivaxer who has a website promoting anti-vaccination, or a book, or a vitamin they are selling, or who is not considered an “expert” by societies standers has an agenda and therefore cant be trusted. First…what? (thats what I say when arguments make no sense to me). OF COURSE They have an agenda – It’s an antivax one. Who doest have some sort of agenda at any given time when discussing a topic that they are passionate about? Just because a book or study can be traced back to an antivax website or “natural medicine” website does not make it unworthy to be trusted. And honestly, i could argue that pharmaceuticals also have a money agenda.
THIS piece of information is about Polio. It is taken from the authors website. He discusses how the polio vaccine did not cause eradication, that the original Polio vaccine, when it was first introduced, most likely is the cause of one type of cancer today, SV40. (actually, I found a CDC reference for that. This information has actually been removed from the CDCs documents).
13. CDC Removing information
About information being removed. This is not right…. EVER. In this case especially because – what is the first thing you think when you hear “Aids started from the polio vaccine” OR “The polio vaccine was the cause of cancer (SV40, specifically)” OR “Polio was already on its way out BEFORE the vaccine was introduced? You think. LIES! .
well, I challenge you to do your research here. Perhaps it’s not very wise to automatically assume something isn’t true just because your “thoughts” suggest otherwise.
14. Facts are Facts
This idea of – you cant trust any information you find on Youtube, blogs, or anything from anyone other then the “experts.’ And, You certainly cant trust information from just ONE PERSON.
Here is my answer to this: WHERE you get your facts or content from, does not change the validity or truth behind the content. One person can make a difference. It only took ONE person to realize the world was round. He challenged all science with this idea, he wasn’t even a scientist. That person was Christopher Columbus. It only took ONE person to realize the Sun stood still, that the Earth was actually moving. Everyone thought he was crazy and there was a warrant out for his arrest. They were going to lock in away in a asylum.
Turns out the non-expert-explorer was RIGHT about the world being round, and the crazy man was RIGHT about the Earth revolving around the Sun.
So, just because there are only a few immunologists and doctors beginning to raise their voice about their concerns of the possible dangers of vaccines…. just because not all of them have an education background in immunology, does not mean what they are saying or suggesting is wrong or invalid. It takes only one person to change the world.
Back in the 50s doctors and the CDC said that smoking absolutely does NOT cause cancer. CHeck THIS OUT about that.
15. Safety of Vaccines
Listen, I don’t care what popular doctors are saying about the safety of vaccines. HERE IS THIS.
When investigating the daily allowance of heavy metals allowed in the body compared to how much is in vaccines, I found THIS. Below is amounts of aluminum considered safe by the FDA and what is actually given to our babies.
“The following are examples of weight with their corresponding maximum levels of aluminum, per the FDA:
8 pound, healthy baby: 18.16 mcg of aluminum
15 pound, healthy baby: 34.05 mcg of aluminum
30 pound, healthy toddler: 68.1 mcg of aluminum
50 pound, healthy child: 113 mcg of aluminum
150 pound adult: 340.5 mcg of aluminum
350 pound adult: 794.5 mcg of aluminum
So how much aluminum is in the vaccines that are routinely given to children?
- Hib (PedVaxHib brand only) – 225 mcg per shot
- Hepatitis B – 250 mcg
- DTaP – depending on the manufacturer, ranges from 170 to 625 mcg
- Pneumococcus – 125 mcg
- Hepatitis A – 250 mcg
- HPV – 225 mcg
- Pentacel (DTaP, HIB and Polio combo vaccine) – 330 mcg
- Pediarix (DTaP, Hep B and Polio combo vaccine) – 850 mcg
At birth, most children are given the hepatitis B vaccination. The amount of aluminum in the Hepatitis B vaccine alone is almost 14 TIMES THE AMOUNT OF ALUMINUM THAT IS FDA-APPROVED.
At well-child check-ups, it’s common for 2 month, 4 month, 6 month etc., appointments to include up to 8 vaccinations that add up to more than 1,000 mcg of aluminum.”
In the process of my search about amounts of heavy metals in vaccines and how they accumulate in the body, I met a fellow non vaxer (well she is NOW non vax), she told me this:
“The FDA says 4-5mcg per pound if body weight ingested! The body absorbs very little (0.01-3%) of ingested aluminum. So for a newborn, around 20mcg is safe for ingestion, they inject 350mcg between the hep B & vit k shots. My son was vaxed to 15 mo except the MMR. He has very high Aluminum levels at 22 mo. His levels are 23, the CDC says they should be between 1-3. He has Autism from his vaccines.” (emphasis mine)
When I asked her what her Pedi says to this, she told me, “His head is still spinning. He doesn’t understand how this could happen since “vaccines are supposed to be safe.”
And just for toots and giggles, here is a pubmed link about how aluminum levels in vaccines were decided upon.
Those are the main concerns/issues I have. I am always open to changing my mind, simply because new information is coming out all of the time.
And as always… don’t take my word for it. DO your OWN research. Making a medical decision for your family should not rest on my opinion or research, it should rest on YOURS. YOU need to be convinced either way. I’m not suggesting or telling anyone TO or NOT TO vaccinate. Im just sharing some issues I have. If they are NOT your issues, don’t make them yours. But if you are concerned about what I am concerned about, please research before making any decisions. I suggests keeping your nose on both sides of the issue if you want to be fully informed on the issues of vaccines.
Wisdom From My Husband
“As people, we want something we can stand on and trust and say to ourselves, ‘at least I know *THIS* is true and trustworthy.’ We have accepted that our most sacred institutions are corrupt when it comes to money and money flow. We witness it, we accept it, we get over it, and have moved on.
Take the government and politics for example. We have accepted that politics are corrupt because of bribery, control, and power. When someone says, ‘There are special interest groups’, we all agree because it’s been going on for as long as we can remember. This is so common that as a society we have come to accept it, and we move on.
The same has happened with some religious institutions and churches. Although we may believe our faith to be true, we understand that *some* churches and religious institutions are often fundamentally flawed and corrupted by money, power, or control. We know this, we have seen and witnessed it, and as a society have gotten over it – we move on.
At the core of who we are, we really want something we can stand on and trust. When it comes to medicine (all that is the health care system), we want to believe that certainly *THIS* would not be corrupt, because it is in relation to our health. And so we refuse to look at it with a critical eye because we don’t want to have another foundational element in our lives have cracks in it. We don’t like the idea that *this too* could be flawed. So we just assume this institution is absolute and unflawed all the way through.
And thats not true, some medical professionals, even those we are supposed to trust, who make our medical decisions for us as a society (Pharmaceuticals, immunologist, FDA, CDC, Health care providers), ARE persuaded by finances, power, greed, and control. We would be foolish to think that our medical system could go untouched by these. Our political system has, religious institutions have, our health system could too.
Point is, we need to take a critical look at it. We should not assume that every practicing practitioner (or anyone else involved with any part of health care decisions) has our best interest in mind, or that there is no outside influence (such as money, greed, power, control) that could be swaying their decisions.
What did we do once we saw there could be flaws with government systems or religious systems? Research. We researched so that we could make educated decisions as a society. It would be wise to do the same with medicine and all aspects of health care.
Is all of the Healthcare System bad? No. Neither is all parts of our Government, neither is all Religious Institutions.”